Updated 6 November 2009.
I just cancelled my Neotel service. Here’s why.
As you can see at the bottom of this post, when I first started posting speed tests on my Neotel connection (it is the high-end consumer offering NeoFlex Data 15GB), I was proactively contacted by a Neotel employee, Albert Goosen. This really impressed me, and I hoped this meant that the non-responsiveness for which Neotel’s client services has become famous would be spared me. Unfortunately it meant no such thing.
From the moment I received my EVDOx1 router from Neotel, the quality of the service disappointed me. At times I got half-decent speeds of 400-500kbps, but more often it hovered in the 50-200 range. And that is an average with the connection dropping to a few bytes per second several times per minute. Worse, every few days, for hours at a time, or even for the whole day, the connection would be highly unstable with speeds averaging less the 100kbps. I though this might be a signal strength issue, so I tried to test the latter with the bundled software. No luck, the CD that shipped with my router could not be read. I hunted around the internet and managed to download a piece of software called “Axesstel Manager” (the modem is manufactured by Axesstel). However, the version I found (apparently the one supplied by Neotel) would not speak to my modem, complaining that I should insert a valid “RUIM”. I gathered that this is a simcard-like item not used by Neotel (but on other CDMA networks) and that other Neotel customers had the same problem. Eventually I managed to find a forum posting on Mybroadband by one reslient Neotel customer who managed to get a technician to provide him with an up to date version of the software that could actually measure signal strength on the NeoFlex routers. In the mean time I had ordered a R600 Poynting cellphone aerial with adapters for the Neotel devices. Once I ran the software, I discovered that my signal strength was fine even before attaching the large outdoor aerial, and the latter improved signal strength only marginally (from an “RSSI” of -75 to about -65).
But my data speeds remained unchanged and at times the modem would even refuse to connect to the Neotel network. Inexplicably, on a few occasions the speeds would be very high (more than 1Mbps) but only for very short periods. And then I’d be back with my dialup-quality “broadband” service. This obviously made for a highly unsatisfactory experience, especially given that I was replacing a 4Mbps Telkom ADSL line with this (in the hope of saving money). All I expected was reliability and speeds within the range advertised by Neotel. It should be noted that I am situated slap bang in the middle of the Cape Town CBD – a prime business market for telecoms. All I can
So I lodged a complaint with Neotel customer care and they promised to get back to me. They never did. I sent an email to complaints@neotel.co.za and to network@neotel.co.za. No response. Then Albert Goosen contacted me on this blog (within a few hours of posting my first speed test — I was highly impressed). This is the email I sent him on 30 October:
Dear Albert
First, let me thank you for contacting me on my website, it is certainly refreshing to be proactively contacted by a representative of a telecoms company. For reference: my username on the network is 0218010210@neotel.co.za
My problem has been that the NeoFlex product I signed up for has delivered significantly inferior speeds to what is advertised (see the email below). In the last day or two, matters have actually improved somewhat, and like on the speedtest I posted, download speeds are now often in the 400-500kbps range. However, it is extremely variable and my fear is related to the two year contract I signed. If matters worsen again to what I was experiencing earlier this week and last week, it is almost unusable for me. So I have been thinking of trying to cancel the contract and rather making use of an ADSL product like I have done in the past. But perhaps you can give me advice as to what can be expected. Further, I wondered whether your Wimax product would provide a superior experience, but unfortunately the WImax packages advertised on your website are prohibitively expensive. If I could subscribe to something like the NeoFlex 15GB package I am on, but use the superior Wimax access technology, that may have been a good option.
I insert below my email to Neotel sent a few days ago and which also refers to a telephonic query I lodged.
From: Eduard Grebe
Date: 2009/10/27
Subject: Absurdly bad quality of service in the Cape Town CBD
To: network@neotel.co.za, complaints@neotel.co.zaDear Neotel Network and Complaints teams
(Please note, I logged a call on this issue with customer service, with reference number 101728 and am awaiting feedback.)
I recently signed up for your NeoFlex Data 15GB service. A website coverage check indicated “excellent” coverage at my address. (An Altech person also physically checked coverage at my flat and it was apparently fine.)
However, I experience extreme variability in download speeds (ranging from a few bytes per second to a maximum 20KB/s or approximately 200kbps it probably averages around 100-150kbps at most). This is compared to the advertised peak download speed of 3.1 Mbps and average download speeds of 450-900kbps. I have purchased an external aerial in the hope of improving my experience. This slightly improves my RSSI values from -75 to about -65, but has had absolutely no effect on download speeds. Since these scores in any event apparently reflect fairly good signal strength this is unlikely to be the problem. I cannot but conclude that this is an issue with the quality of the service — either the number of users using the base station, backhaul capacity or a similar issue. In any event, it is an entirely unsatisfactory user experience and is significantly inferior to what is advertised for this product.
This has been a severe disappointment, as I was planning to replace an ADSL connect for my home office with this product. The disappointment is especially acute given that I had no reason to suspect that a product aimed largely at business customers in the central business district of a major service could possibly be so unreliable.
Could you kindly indicate whether there is any chance of improving my experience, and if not, how I can go about nullifying the contract which I have signed with Neotel.
Kind regards
Eduard GrebeOnce again, thank you and I look forward to your response.
Unfortunately, I received no response to this email. So, what could I do? I cancelled my service.
Original post. Here are the speed tests I conducted (keep in mind that when my connection was down or very slow I couldn’t even conduct these tests, the page would take too long to load):






#1 by AJ Goosen on 30/10/2009 - 08:54
Eduard,
I’m from Neotel so you can talk to me so I can try and get you sorted.
#2 by Eduard Grebe on 30/10/2009 - 11:33
Wow. I have heard of the famous Albert Goosen. I have now sent him an email detailing my problems. Let’s see what comes of it. I will report on my experience.
#3 by Louis Fourie on 09/11/2009 - 12:45
Eduard
Thanks for holding Neotel accountable.
My Neotel service quality has also deteriorated considerably in the last weeks. Phoning customer service also hasn’t produced any results. The unreliable service is immensely frustrating and the poor customer service highly aggravating.
I would like to know how individuals and companies – who depend on a reliable Internet connection to conduct business – are expected to pay Neotel for a service that is not up to standard? Neotel should know that, especially during an economic recession, users will be demanding nothing less than acceptable service levels.
If the situation persists it, we would be forced by Neotel to cancel our contract as well.
Wishing you the best of luck with your dealings with Neotel and looking forward to their feedback.
#4 by Johan Pretorius on 23/11/2009 - 18:47
Eduard,
I am having exactly the same kind of experience you describe. My download speeds is at least in the 1Mb/s range but the connection is very unstable. This started about 2 weeks ago. For hours on end I cannot connect to the Neotel network even though my signal strength is around -55db (Having struggled with the USB software that continually asks for a valid RUIM and then closes). I bought an external Yagi antenna which does not improve my connection problems.
Also as far as customer service is concerned there is none. Neotel has no real technical support out of office hours and since i only use the link after office hours this means I have no technical support. I phoned numerous times and logged a support call (104515) and big surprise no one got back to me and nothing got better.
Went to Neotel because Telkom could not deliver and now realize Neotel suck as badly if not worse.
We just have to face that reliable internet in South Africa is a myth and no one really cares.
Cheers
Johan
#5 by Eduard Grebe on 23/11/2009 - 19:06
Johan, I’m sorry to hear you are having an equally unpleasant experience. BTW, to get around that stupid RUIM error message, use this newer version of the Axesstel Manager software: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/157963/Neotel.zip
#6 by Johan Pretorius on 24/11/2009 - 15:02
Thanks Eduard,
This helps to lessen the frustration a bit.
#7 by Johan de Kock on 26/11/2009 - 12:41
Hi Eduard
I have been experiencing exactly the same issue as you, except in the beginning I got speeds of 2Mbps and higher.
Unfortunately for the last two months network stability / network speed / customer service have been unacceptable.
How did you manage to cancel the contract? What are the steps involved? I don’t mind paying for the stupid device just to get rid of them.
Kind regards
Johan
#8 by Eduard Grebe on 26/11/2009 - 21:43
@Johan de Kock: I don’t think you have to pay them for the device. I cancelled my contract and they told me they would arrange to pick the device up from me again. There may be a difference between NeoFlex and NeoConnect, though.
#9 by Bryan on 05/03/2010 - 13:08
Eduard, you are not alone in this battle against Neotel. Their customer service is terrible and they make promises they do not keep. It is all a stalling tactic to give you no service. You can see my complaint here http://www.hellopeter.com/the_report.php?id=383436
#10 by Michael Smit on 18/03/2010 - 09:12
Hi Eduard,
This all seems so familiar. I had a NEOGO unit, and after numerous complaints and telephone calls to Neotel I still had connectivity problems. The Neotel service is appalling!! I have never in my life experienced something so bad. After numerous fights with Neotel, they eventually decided to cancell my NEOGO contract, but amazingly still billed me for it (which is another fight). In November of 2009 I applied then for the famous Neotel service, and received an Axesstel 1xEV-DO modem. That was in March of 2010 (extremely quick service, unlike the adverts on radio). The system worked so good for the first week, I thought that I have been transported to another world. However, the last week and a half I have not had proper connectivity, I do not even get close to 50Mb connection!! This is apparently something that Neotel cannot or does not want to rectify, as their excuse is constantly, they will get back to me. BIGGEST JOKE around is Neotel’s service!
#11 by Marc Mienie on 25/04/2010 - 20:37
I am so glad to see im not the only one complaining, a while ago my neotel neogo device just decided its time to kick the bucket,so i phoned neotel and asked for the device to be replaced..and the lady on the phone told me i will receive my device within the week.Three months later i received my device after millions of phone calls during those three months complaining about not getting my device.The new device only worked for 1 month and just as the previous “kicked the bucket”,so i made ready for a three month wait again…but atleast this time i only had to wait three weeks–being very sarcastic about being patient here–and now i am currently on my new device and its still holding…2 months down the road now…im just waiting for the “new bucket”…but the one thing that i have noticed on all three of my devices that after a month (give or take) that my connection speeds drop considerably…i used to connect to the internet in a flash be able to work with no hassle what so ever…but it takes me ages to work online now. So if neotel or anyone out there could maybe help me out with firmware updates etc it would gladly be appreciated…but dont think that will be happening anytime soon….from neotel to neohell….telkom looks quite pleasing at this time in life!!!
#12 by Candice on 04/08/2010 - 15:30
Hi About 3 months ago, I applied for my details to be changed by a neotel consultant. From Private to business. (company name and change of address) It took me 3 Days to make these changes.
I tried to get my statements but recieved nothing. Then 3 weeks ago i also send a mail saying that they have to ammend my VAT number, as this need to go to my bookkeeper.
Then again today(after 3 months) i contacted the neotel accounts dep. to send my statements. When i got it (unbelievable) No changes has been made to the account. the name changes is wrong, the address is wrong and not even the VAt number has been edited.
(But they can do debit orders very easily) what am i suppose to tell my book keeper now?
i am really struggling to get something so simple done with the consultants.
The connection and all is fine, but why do i have to beg them to just deliver what i require? Is that to much to ask? OR perhaps is there something wrong with the employees?
This is not the way to be treating customers. I mean waiting 3 months to update something and still not done. That is terrible.
This is real bad
Candice